Eternity - Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming November 12th(?) (2024)

Perkel said:

Nikanuur said:

There's seldom something worse and more stereotyped in gaming development than stuff like AAA-tier graphics but E-tier environment traversing. Cminus-tier gameplay, but almost a B-tier kind of story. D-tier mash-button combat, much less exploration, etc.
I mean, we all gladly play AA, B, or even C-tier games if they know their place; all their aspects, price included, middling around their respective, clearly communicated 'mark'.
But, hey, what else is new since the 2000s.

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Can i expect from Obsidian for Avowed to be Skyrim/The Witcher 3 size ? To include 100s of spells ? 20 weapon types with 100s of weapons to pick ? 100 monster types ? 1000 npcs with their own day schedule ? Any avenue where they can say. Yep we are the best !?

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It's not about the ability to 'scale up', it's about talent. Time and time again small, talented indie devs prove that with hard work and skill, you can create incredible games that are very complex, 2D or 3D.

What Obsidian are lacking is talent. Because it left.

Yosharian said:

It's not about the ability to 'scale up', it's about talent. Time and time again small, talented indie devs prove that with hard work and skill, you can create incredible games that are very complex, 2D or 3D.

What Obsidian are lacking is talent. Because it left.

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And you won't get it. If you go to any programming course, the amount of gamers is decreasing. In a class of 50 it's likely that only two or three are actually on this because they want to make games. The image of the supernerd is going away now that anything IT related is basically a normal job now. Plus you have years of bad press against gaming dev being a sh*t place to work in, and it's public knowledge that gaming is the worst paying branch of software development. Who would want to work there?

Cat Headed Eagle said:

Yosharian said:

It's not about the ability to 'scale up', it's about talent. Time and time again small, talented indie devs prove that with hard work and skill, you can create incredible games that are very complex, 2D or 3D.

What Obsidian are lacking is talent. Because it left.

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And you won't get it. If you go to any programming course, the amount of gamers is decreasing. In a class of 50 it's likely that only two or three are actually on this because they want to make games. The image of the supernerd is going away now that anything IT related is basically a normal job now. Plus you have years of bad press against gaming dev being a sh*t place to work in, and it's public knowledge that gaming is the worst paying branch of software development. Who would want to work there?

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Fortunately it doesn't matter, because in a decade all these "developers" will be replaced by an AI anyway, and every Codexer will be able to easily generate his own perfect RPG in a basem*nt. I'll tell the computer to make me 100 sequels to Arcanum, then I'll just keep playing them until I die.

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Cat Headed Eagle said:

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Yosharian said:

It's not about the ability to 'scale up', it's about talent. Time and time again small, talented indie devs prove that with hard work and skill, you can create incredible games that are very complex, 2D or 3D.

What Obsidian are lacking is talent. Because it left.

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And you won't get it. If you go to any programming course, the amount of gamers is decreasing. In a class of 50 it's likely that only two or three are actually on this because they want to make games. The image of the supernerd is going away now that anything IT related is basically a normal job now. Plus you have years of bad press against gaming dev being a sh*t place to work in, and it's public knowledge that gaming is the worst paying branch of software development. Who would want to work there?

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Fortunately it doesn't matter, because in a decade all these "developers" will be replaced by an AI anyway, and every Codexer will be able to easily generate his own perfect RPG in a basem*nt. I'll tell the computer to make me 100 sequels to Arcanum, then I'll just keep playing them until I die.

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The heavily censored AI you're allowed to use will produce 100 sequels where you can only play a dark skinned Orc, female, mage and all plots revolve around you exclusively killing (and only ever killing) White, human, male, factory owners.

have fun.

Lyric Suite said:

Is there any realistic possibility this isn't going to be sh*t?

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No and reminder I've learned to love PoE so it's not coming from a complete detractor PoV.
It had a sliver of chance to sell decently because it didn't seem like it's going to have competition in late 2024 other than DA4, but now that you have KCD2 it's over for Avowed, wouldn't be surprised if they announced delay to early 2025.

NaturallyCarnivorousSheep said:

No and reminder I've learned to love PoE

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My condolences for your sanity. Before you go to the next step, which is considering Canadian healthcare, let me prescribe you some therapy: at least 100 hours of Grimoire, doctor's orders. If blobbers don't get along with your current medication, then consider the prescription free alternative; Icewind Dale.

Lyric Suite said:

Is there any realistic possibility this isn't going to be sh*t?

I don't know much about Obsidian this days, but i do remember a lot of key people aren't there anymore and the last game of theirs i looked at seemed total sh*t.

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Expecting a competently-made video game, much less good, in 2024 and beyond is just asking for disappointment.

Will this game have cipher abilities?

Wizard spell I found just very nerfed versions of D&D spells and din't liked, now, being able to take control over enemies in a very low lethality game was op. In a skyrim-esque game, cipher abilities allow NPC trolling.

Tyranicon said:

Lyric Suite said:

Is there any realistic possibility this isn't going to be sh*t?

I don't know much about Obsidian this days, but i do remember a lot of key people aren't there anymore and the last game of theirs i looked at seemed total sh*t.

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Expecting a competently-made video game, much less good, in 2024 and beyond is just asking for disappointment.

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It is kind of sad that we will probably never see game developers of Meier, Carmack, Abrash, Garriott and other legends genius level.
Not needed anymore, it seems.

ropetight said:

It is kind of sad that we will probably never see game developers of Meier, Carmack, Abrash, Garriott and other legends genius level.
Not needed anymore, it seems.

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There will probably still be great game makers as long as the medium is alive, just like how the occasional good TV show or movie still crops up.

But it will probably be smaller, niche projects rather than AAA or even higher end AA stuff. So, expect more stuff like Battle Brothers if you want good games.

Cryomancer said:

Will this game have cipher abilities?

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We don't know. I personally believe that Ciphers won't be heavily represented in the skill trees, but we don't have any solid information on it.

Sannom said:

Cryomancer said:

Will this game have cipher abilities?

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We don't know. I personally believe that Ciphers won't be heavily represented in the skill trees, but we don't have any solid information on it.

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Ciphers was a clumsy attempt to recreate psionics in Mature And Deep Lore(TM) into Pillars of Eternity. After that, nobody cared.

Oh boy!

Edit: Infinitron https://insider-gaming.com/indiana-jones-avowed/

Ah sh*t, I forgot we will not be able to play midgets.

Sorry Obsidian but this time it is the high-sea for me, not going to pay for a possible downgrade.

A-Minish said:

Sorry

Obsidian

Microsoft, but this time it is the high-sea for me,

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Bulo said:

Can't wait to meet the gay aumaua love interest who speaks like some illiterate criminal from Detroit

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I don't think this game has romances.

Isn't it ironic that the closest to Sawyer's asexual ideal will be a game that is the antithesis of his RPG concept?

La vie sexuelle said:

I don't think this game has romances.

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It's going to so funny to see people complain about it in a post-bg3 landscape.

In fairness to Bioware, at least their romances involved hot chicks with nice T&A, not bestial*ty and some other degenerate sh*t.

From what I remember Deadfire only got romances because people whined about it during Figstarter. Good to see somebody finally pushing against cancer.